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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:53 pm |
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Love can make us irresponsible, ignorant, stubborn and immoral. Values are disregarded for the sake of loving someone considered by many as unfit for love. But should we really care?
_________________ Life is a lesson. Learn from it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:49 pm |
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You say love, but describe obsession. I love a few (very few) but for them I try to be better, not worse.
_________________ السلام عليكم
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:55 pm |
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DSW wrote: You say love, but describe obsession. I love a few (very few) but for them I try to be better, not worse.
DSW, that is spot on - well said.
_________________ The most wasted of all days is one without laughter. e e cummings (1894 - 1962)
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:02 pm |
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I agree. Obsession is the better term, but what is love without passion that makes it an obsession?
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:26 pm |
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Passion just means "a strong emotion". It can be applied to hatred, anger or jealousy as well as love, so a passionate love may not be a genuine caring love.
_________________ The most wasted of all days is one without laughter. e e cummings (1894 - 1962)
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:13 pm |
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gumtree wrote: Passion just means "a strong emotion". It can be applied to hatred, anger or jealousy as well as love, so a passionate love may not be a genuine caring love.
Where there is love, there is passion. My dear friend GT, may i ask you this- when you had this love for special someone before, was it not true that you felt this passion and that it felt so genuinely caring?
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:55 pm |
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arrow wrote: Love can make us irresponsible, ignorant, stubborn and immoral. Values are disregarded for the sake of loving someone considered by many as unfit for love. But should we really care?
Arrow, I would never attempt to deny that at various times in my life I have been irresponsible, ignorant, and definitely stubborn. However, none of these were as a result of love.
I have possibly been immoral - depending on the definition and personal values of immorality and that could be associated with aforementioned condition  .
And yes, once upon a time, long long ago, in a galaxy far far away, I did love passionately, but it was with caring and happiness and not either possessively or obsessively.
_________________ The most wasted of all days is one without laughter. e e cummings (1894 - 1962)
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:40 pm |
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"Passionate love" I think is a verbose way of saying 'Lust'.
As for your being immoral Gummers, wow, what was your phone number?
Passion does not make for obsession Arrow, it's an illness.
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:27 pm |
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Thank you for your opinions gumtree and DSW. I just think that passionate love is far from being an obsession because as GT said, it is just strong emotion/s and once one feels so in love, these emotions can really be very intense that loving and liking someone makes it so addicting , albeit and obviously temporary unlike obsession that permeates into one's personality for a long time which makes it an illness.
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:28 pm |
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DSW wrote: "Passionate love" I think is a verbose way of saying 'Lust'.
As for your being immoral Gummers, wow, what was your phone number?
Passion does not make for obsession Arrow, it's an illness.

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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:13 pm |
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I have a passionate love for Faure's Requiem, particularly this.
Edit: The link works now. You should click on it.
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:49 pm |
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Quote: Love can make us irresponsible, ignorant, stubborn and immoral. Values are disregarded for the sake of loving someone considered by many as unfit for love. But should we really care? I don't think what you're describing is love. However to answer your question, it depends. Depends on what you're asking. If you asking if we should care that others consider the one we love is unfit to love; then no, it shouldn't make any difference at all. If you asking if we should care that "love" makes us or the one we love act irresponsible, ignorant, stubborn, and/or immoral; then yes, we should very much care. If you are acting that way i doubt its because of love. Quote: You say love, but describe obsession. I love a few (very few) but for them I try to be better, not worse. Exactly. Love should make you a better person, not a worse. Quote: what is love without passion that makes it an obsession?
You can have love without passion. There is more then one kind love. Romantic love, much more likely to have passion in it. However, i deeply disagree love with passion always means obsession.
In generally people acting like that other people remind me of children playing with toys. "Thats mine! You can't have it." "I was playing with it first."
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