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thinkingreed
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:38 am |
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A famous author concludes that as the technological progress attains the climax, a fundamental change takes place, a breakthrough, a perpendicular drop: the almighty technology creates on the one hand, forceful individuals, and on the other hand, fragile society, as witnessed by the 9/11 attack, nuclear arms, and viruses on the Internet.
In the past we tried to guard against the madness of a country or a Nazi-like bloc, but at present, we have to guard against the insaneness of individuals.
I feel quite the same.
_________________ A reed is more than a reed when it thinks.
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patsm
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:21 am |
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' Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.' ---
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 – 1900
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thinkingreed
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:04 am |
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Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 – 1900)lived in a historical period far different from ours, which is of Internet viruses, biological weapons, bombs, and where the war is fought by small teams of air-borne soldiers.
_________________ A reed is more than a reed when it thinks.
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patsm
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:35 am |
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the brainwashing of t
Quote: small teams of air-borne soldiers
is done by 'groups, parties, nations and epochs'
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thinkingreed
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:52 am |
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I mean, in a sense, the society is vulnerable to attacks launched by small groups of crazy people, as witnessed by 9/11, where the attackers needed only 2000$ for air tickets before they crashed into the Trade Center.
_________________ A reed is more than a reed when it thinks.
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iron_butterfly
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:26 pm |
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You might be right but if we go back in history the Nazis as you said were simply one person... Hitler. If you study German History you'll notice that they had no main and strict ideology but simply Hitler manipulating them for his own means. This is what happens nowadays too as patsm has said previously brainwashing happens by groups but I'll say that the groups have always started by a single person brainwashing them in the first place.
Technology does progress and threatens us but also protects us. After 9/11 yes many ppl died but now every move of every single person is surveilled by cameras which are supposed to protect us. In Hitler's time if a person just decided to through an atomic bomb on a city there was no way to prevent him. I think technology works both ways.
_________________ Love does things for reasons,
Reason cannot understand!
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thinkingreed
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:36 am |
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"Technology works both ways".
Thanks. Iron-butterfly. You are right.
However rapidly technology develops, what is lying behind is always the human being. Man sits behind the wheel of the giant steamroller of technology. Man can use it to produce disasters and also more often, further the welfare of people.
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sigsfried
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:07 pm |
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The state is not fragile the 9/11 attacks you keep mentioning. Did they cripple America? No the state endured. What do you think it would take to bring America to its knees? Is there anything capable of doing this?
_________________ "The Truth may be out there but the lies are in your head"
"I tend to think if God wanted us to believe in him he'd exist."
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cdsg23
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:06 pm |
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Time my friend, only time will bring America to it's knees, but time can be helped tragedies.
_________________ Sanctuary: a small safe place in a troubling world
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sigsfried
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:08 pm |
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America will doubtless last. I doubt it will remain as powerful but that won't be the fault of the 9/11 attacks or anything similiar
America has had around 50 years of being top most of that time contested by Russia but now who knows there are three areas threatening, the Indian subcontinent, China and the EU if the US doesn't sort its econemy out it is in trouble it is currently behaving like Britian did shortly before WW2 as a result the British lost there power. Now the US is engaged in a major war which could have been easily avoided (just like ww2 really)
_________________ "The Truth may be out there but the lies are in your head"
"I tend to think if God wanted us to believe in him he'd exist."
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cdsg23
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:33 pm |
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sigsfried wrote: America will doubtless last. I doubt it will remain as powerful but that won't be the fault of the 9/11 attacks or anything similiar
We will last, we will endure, maybe not as a united country, and definately not as strong as we have been in the past, but we as a people will survive, and it is up to us what we will do with the definater future we have in store.
_________________ Sanctuary: a small safe place in a troubling world
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Alfred Liseo
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:58 pm |
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Was the Unabomber Manifesto attempting to inform on this issue?
Alfred Liseo
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libra&libra
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:55 am |
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thinkingreed wrote: A famous author concludes that as the technological progress attains the climax, a fundamental change takes place, a breakthrough, a perpendicular drop: the almighty technology creates on the one hand, forceful individuals, and on the other hand, fragile society, as witnessed by the 9/11 attack, nuclear arms, and viruses on the Internet.
In the past we tried to guard against the madness of a country or a Nazi-like bloc, but at present, we have to guard against the insaneness of individuals.
I feel quite the same.
Blame no one but those few freaking minds amongst us spreading as chronic diseases. We ought to be aware to our humanity before realizing the technological progress we reached to.
Libra.
_________________ Being a lady is an attitude.
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