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Sweetchar7
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:47 pm |
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how would you persuade Macbeth of not going ahead with the plan to kill king Duncan?
what would you say?
I personally will use the same stragey Lady Macbeth will use but use flattery. Include his manhood and the guilt feelings he will incounter.

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joan_of_arc_friend
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:41 pm |
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It couldn't be done without changing the play.
Shakespeare's point was that Macbeth couldn't be dissuaded from his murderous rampage. Somewhere well into the play Macbeth says, "my eternal jewel stolen by the common enemy of man", that is, his soul would be lost to the devil. Macbeth knew what he was doing, but he did it anyways.
Someone who doesn't know what he's doing is not responsible for his actions. But Macbeth had no excuse.
_________________ "I am not afraid... I was born to do this"
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Last edited by joan_of_arc_friend on Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Feeruse
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:00 am |
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I think nobody and nothing persuade Macbeth about murdering. Cause his soul is stolen by evil and he can do what his power ambition says...
_________________ no need to pretend just be yourself
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Farsix
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:45 am |
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Along those lines, how could Hamlet have been altered to make it work for the fellow?
Are there only comedies, farces and tragedies?
Shakespeare in Love had the right idea - a happy ending - a love story.
Hamlet not dieing but getting the bad guy through subterfuge or a sting operation and I'm not being facetious. I don't know enough about Shakespeare to know if he went beyond these three somewhat limited groups.
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joan_of_arc_friend
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:49 pm |
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Hamlet is about man's uncertainty of what he should do. Hamlet delays and delays about avenging his father's murder. At one point, he considers suicide: "To be, or not to be."
He philosophises all the time. He wastes time putting on a play. He pretends to be mad. Finally, he kills the king, but is himself killed. He dies saying, "... the rest is silence", that is, he doesn't know what the next life will be. If he had known more, he might have avoided tragedy.
Macbeth cannot plead ignorance. He knew the devil would get his soul, but he did evil anyways.
_________________ "I am not afraid... I was born to do this"
"Help yourself. God will help you" ( Aide toi. Dieu t'aidera. )
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cdsg23
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:55 pm |
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Sweetchar7 wrote: how would you persuade Macbeth of not going ahead with the plan to kill king Duncan? what would you say? I personally will use the same stragey Lady Macbeth will use but use flattery. Include his manhood and the guilt feelings he will incounter. 
It sounds to me like you're asking us to write an assignment for you for school.
_________________ Sanctuary: a small safe place in a troubling world
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libra&libra
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:26 am |
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Sweetchar7 wrote: how would you persuade Macbeth of not going ahead with the plan to kill king Duncan? what would you say? I personally will use the same stragey Lady Macbeth will use but use flattery. Include his manhood and the guilt feelings he will incounter. 
Well, I gotta tell Macbeth "Don't try this at home"
Cool idea...
Libra.
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Fish Are Quick
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:31 am |
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"Dude, the witches were lying, they just want you to kill the king so they can take over and rule the world."
_________________ "The proper study of mankind is man."
Alexander Pope
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cdsg23
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:02 pm |
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somehow i think that would work the best of anything...that or hypnotize the guy and show him what the consequences of killing the king would be for him.
_________________ Sanctuary: a small safe place in a troubling world
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lauramoncur
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:53 am |
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Actually, Macbeth needed a lot of persuading to do what he did. Maybe the better question would be:
How do you ease Lady Macbeth's desire for power?
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