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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2002 7:25 am 
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Check out the new <a href="/subjects/">Quotes by Subject</a> page! I finally figured out a way to start categorizing quotations by subject without going insane.

We have 86 subjects and about 1400 categorized quotes so far. Each subject includes a number of quotes from our collections. (This is a new way of looking at our quotations, rather than a bunch of new quotes.)

The subject selection is somewhat random, so let me know if there is a subject you'd like to see there. (Of course, that only works if we have quotations for that subject.)

The subjects are pretty specific, i.e. I kept Learning, Intelligence, Knowledge, and Wisdom separate. This may or may not be the most logical way of doing things, but it's by far the easiest for me to manage. Otherwise I'd get into endless debates with myself about whether, for example, Knowledge and Learning or Wisdom and Intelligence are the same thing.

This is just the beginning, I'll be expanding the list of subjects and categorizing more quotations as time passes. Let me know what you think!

P. S. I don't know what it says about us that "Money" ended up being the category with the most quotes and "Television" has more than "Science" and almost as many as "God". Please don't judge. :)

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I love the new index. Works beautifully. Thanks!


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Thank you! Even though it's just another way of looking at the same quotations, I've been surprised how entertaining it is even for me to read through.

I added a few more subjects last night.

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(that quote was found attributed to Aelius Donatus)

I also want to say I think the quotes by subject is great. Nicely done.

I wasn't sure where to post this, and decided to do it here.
There are three quotes within the subject "Quotations" that I think make more sense, and deliver the intended meaning of the author, when presented in their full form.
The Churchill one especially. It comes across as a glib jibe when seen as a single sentence taken out of context, and I grimace every time I see it presented that way. When seen in its entirety it becomes a beautiful statement about the value of reading.
With the Emerson quote, he is talking about Immortality.
And with the Parker quote, she is talking about sleep.
The three quotes I am referring to are the first three of this list.

It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations. Bartlett's Familiar Quotations is an admirable work, and I studied it intently. The quotations when engraved upon the memory give you good thoughts. They also make you anxious to read the authors and look for more.
~Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
Roving Commission: My Early Life
1930, Chapter 9
http://www.crosswinds.net/~tourette/quotations/Q.htm

"Immortality. I notice that as soon as writers broach this question they begin to quote. I hate quotation. Tell me what you know."
~Emerson, in Journal (May 1849)

How do people go to sleep? I'm afraid I've lost the knack. I might try busting myself smartly over the temple with the nightlight. I might repeat to myself, slowly and soothingly, a list of quotations beautiful from minds profound; if I can remember any of the damn things.
~Dorothy Parker.

"Misquotation is, in fact, the pride and privilege of the learned. A widely-read man never quotes accurately, for the rather obvious reason that he has read too widely."
~Hesketh Pearson

"I am reminded of the professor who, in his declining hours, was asked by his devoted pupils for his final counsel. He replied, 'Verify your quotations.'"
~Winston Churchill, quoted in Rudolf Flesch, ed., "The New Book of Unusual Quotations" (NY: Harper & Row, 1966), p. 311.

"Quotation ... A writer expresses himself in words that have been used before because they give his meaning better than he can give it himself, or because they are beautiful or witty, or because he expects them to touch a cord of association in his reader, or because he wishes to show that he is learned and well read. Quotations due to the last motive are invariably ill-advised; the discerning reader detects it and is contemptuous; the undiscerning is perhaps impressed, but even then is at the same time repelled, pretentious quotations being the surest road to tedium.
~Henry W. Fowler, in A Dictionary of Modern English Usage (1926)

"Some for renown, on scraps of learning dote,
And think they grow immortal as they quote."
~Edward Young, in Love of Fame (satire I, l. 89)

"One must be a wise reader to quote wisely and well."
~Amos Bronson Alcott, in Table Talk

"Next to the originator of a good sentence is the first quoter of it."
~Emerson, in Letters and Social Aims (Quotation and Originality)

"There is not less wit nor less invention in applying rightly a thought one finds in a book, than in being the first author of that thought."
~Pierre Bayle, in Dictionairre Historique et Critique

"Though old the thought and oft exprest,
'Tis his at last who says it best."
~James Russell Lowell, in For an Autograph

"Classical quotation is the parole of literary men all over the world."
~Samuel Johnson, as quoted in Boswell's Life of Johnson (May 8th, 1781)

A book that furnishes no quotations is, me judice, no book -- it is a plaything.
~Thomas Love Peacock (1785 - 1866) English novelist, poet
Dr. Folliot, in Crotchet Castle, ch. 9 (1831).

The Thomas Love Peacock quote in more entirety:
"Gentlemen, you will never settle this controversy till you have first settled what is good for man in this world; the great question, de finibus, which has puzzled all philosophers. If the enchanter has represented the twelfth century too brightly for one, and too darkly for the other of you, I should say, as an impartial man, he has represented it fairly. My quarrel with him is, that his works contain nothing worth quoting; and a book that furnishes no quotations, is me judice, no book--it is a plaything."
http://www.bookrags.com/books/ccstl/PART10.htm
http://www.bookrags.com/books/ccstl/PART11.htm

I love quotations because it is a joy to find thoughts one might have, beautifully expressed with much authority by someone recognized wiser than oneself.
~Marlene Dietrich (1901 - 1992) German-US actress, singer

By necessity, by proclivity, - and by delight, we all quote.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson.

When a thing has been said and said well, have no scruple. Take it and copy it.
~Anatole France.

Aphorisms are essentially an aristocratic genre of writing. The aphorist does not argue or explain, he asserts; and implicit in his assertion is a conviction that he is wiser or more intelligent than his readers. For this reason the aphorist who adopts a folksy style with "democratic" diction and grammar is a cowardly and insufferable hypocrite.
~W. H. Auden

Life is like quotations. Sometimes, it makes you laugh. Sometimes, it makes you cry. Most of the time, you don't get it.
~ Unknown

Every quotation contributes something to the stability or enlargement of the language.
~ Dr Samuel Johnson

He wrapped himself in quotations- as a beggar would enfold himself in the purple of Emperors.
~ Rudyard Kipling

I quote others only the better to express myself.
~ Michel de Montaigne

To be occasionally quoted is the only fame I care for.
~ Alexander Smith

"Quotes are nothing but inspiration for the uninspired."
~ Richard Kemph

"The wisdom of the wise and the experience of the ages is preserved into perpetuity by a nation's proverbs, fables, folk sayings and quotations."
~ William Feather

The point of quotations is that one can use another's words to be insulting.
~ Amanda Cross

What's the use of a good quotation if you can't change it?
~ Doctor Who

"I never have found the perfect quote. At best I have been able to find a string of quotations which merely circle the ineffible idea I seek to express."
~ Caldwell O'Keefe

"A quotation in a speech, article or book is like a rifle in the hands of an infantryman. It speaks with authority."
~ Brendan Francis

After all, all he did was string together a lot of old, well-known quotations.
~H. L. Mencken, on Shakespeare

Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for word what you shouldn't have said.
~found unattributed

"Nothing is so useless as a general maxim."
~THOMAS BABINGTON MACAULAY, Literary Essays contributed to the Edinburgh Review


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2002 11:23 pm 
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Thanks for the details, I had never seen the longer forms of those. I added a bunch of the quotations you listed to our collections, and also put the longer versions of those three on the Quotations subject page.

Thanks again!

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You are welcome. And thank you for providing a wonderful website dedicated to what I call "thought collecting."
I just checked to be sure you had "writing" as a subject, and became trapped and entertained for the time it took me to read all the quotes you have on it. Great stuff! There was a Pliny the Elder and Younger? I had no idea! And even a quote by Leo Rosten! He wrote one of the books I've read more than once. I am including the closing paragraphs from it over on the Literature forum.
Here's a few more on writing that I like:

"Planning to write is not writing. Outlining...researching...talking to people about what you're doing, none of that is writing. Writing is writing."
~E.L. Doctorow
http://www.fontayne.com/quotes.html
http://book-smith.tripod.com/writing-quotes.html

Ernest Hemingway, when asked what was the most frightening thing he ever encountered, answered: "A blank sheet of paper."

If I had more time, I would write a shorter story.
~Mark Twain

I was once being interviewed by Barbara Walters... She said, "Don't you ever want to do anything but write?"
"No," I said.
"Don't you want to go hunting? Fishing? Dancing? Hiking?"
And I said, "No! No! No! and No!"
She said, "But what would you do if the doctor gave you only six months to live?"
I said, "Type faster."
~Isaac Asimov (from Asimov Laughs Again)

A writer is a person for whom writing is more difficult than it is for other people.
~Thomas Mann

We do not write because we want to; we write because we have to.
~Somerset Maugham

I believe more in the scissors than I do in the pencil.
~Truman Capote

I was working on the proof of one of my poems all the morning, and took out a comma. In the afternoon I put it back again.
~Oscar Wilde

There are three rules for writing the novel. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are.
~Somerset Maugham

I always do the first line well, but I have trouble with the others.
~Moliere

Inspiration is wonderful when it happens, but the writer must develop an approach for the rest of the time...The wait is simply too long.
~Leonard S. Bernstein


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Thanks for the writing quotes, there are a bunch I hadn't seen before.

Incidentally, I was working on the Quotes by Subject page for a few days before I officially announced it. "Writing" was actually the 8th subject added to the list... one of my favorite topics for quotations.

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I thought I'd resurrect this thread to mention that I've added a bunch more quotations about quotations for those interested in introspection.

http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/quotations

Also a few new subjects - Dreams, Imagination, Confidence, Faith, Belief, and Conceit.

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Thanks for adding that (since we're in a war).
As usual, I have some feedback.
Did you know that the Kennedy quote is not original, and is in fact "borrowed"? I would never stand in the way of giving it to him, of course, because as a young lad when I heard it live, it meant a great deal to me at the time, and still does.

In an 1884 speech, Oliver Wendell Holmes said: "recall what our country has done for each of us, and to ask ourselves what we can do for our country in return."
Warren Harding in 1916 at the Republican convention echoed a similar statement: "we must have a citizenship less concerned about what the government can do for it and more anxious about what it can do for the nation." That line is on display in Harding's own handwriting at his Marion, Ohio home.
Kennedy speechwriter Arthur Schlesinger admitted that the line had antecedents but he said that the thought was Kennedy's own when Kennedy recorded a quotation from Rousseau in 1945: "As soon as any man says of the affairs of state, What does it matter to me? the state may be given up as lost."

Now on to the Patton quote. Until I see a definite time and place where he said that, I believe it is made up. There are two other versions, the longer of which is apparently from the movie (which I have, but am too lazy to whip it out and check it).

The Patton quote:
Don't be a fool and die for your country. Let the other sonofabitch die for his.

Is also seen as:

Don't be a fool and die for your country. Make the other fool die for his country.
~Gen. George S. Patton.
http://www.emandsaur.com/quote/qfreedom.htm

and apparently this version is from the movie:

Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor bastard die for his country.
-- George S. Patton Jr.
http://www.socialist.nu/citat/militarism.html

When a nation is filled with strife, then do patriots flourish.
~Lao-Tzu (6th century B.C.), Chinese philosopher.
Tao-te-ching, bk. 1, ch. 18, trans. by T.C. Lau (1963).
http://www.bartleby.com/66/37/33737.html

In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
~Mark Twain, Notebook, 1904
http://www.twainquotes.com/Patriotism.html

Each of you, for himself, by himself and on his own responsibility, must speak. And it is a solemn and weighty responsibility, and not lightly to be flung aside at the bullying of pulpit, press, government, or the empty catchphrases of politicians. Each must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, and which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your convictions is to be an unqualified and inexcusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let man label you as they may. If you alone of all the nation shall decide one way, and that way be the right way according to your convictions of the right, you have done your duty by yourself and by your country- hold up your head! You have nothing to be ashamed of.
-- Mark Twain

"My country, right or wrong,” is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, “My mother, drunk or sober."
~G.K. Chesterton, (1874-1936).

In time of war the loudest patriots are the greatest profiteers.
~August Bebel, Speech, Reichstag, November, 1870.

When I am abroad, I always make it a rule never to criticize or attack the government of my own country. I make up for lost time when I come home.
~Winston Churchill

When a whole nation is roaring Patriotism at the top of its voice, I am fain to explore the cleanness of its hands and purity of its
heart.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson, Journals (1824).

Breathes there the man, with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my native land!
Whose heart hath ne'er within him burn'd,
As home his footsteps he hath turn'd,
From wandering on a foreign strand!
If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
For him no Minstrel raptures swell;
High though his titles, proud his name,
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim;
Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentred all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust, from whence he sprung,
Unwept, unhonor'd, and unsung.
~Sir Walter Scott, in Lay of the Last Minstrel

He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable patriotism, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.
-- Albert Einstein

You'll never have a quiet world till you knock the patriotism out of human race.
-- George Bernard Shaw, Misalliance.

One of the great attractions of Patriotism - it fulfills our worst wishes. In the person of our nation we are able, vicariously to bully and cheat. Bully and cheat, what's more with a feeling that we are profoundly virtuous.
-- Aldous Huxley

Nationalism is our form of incest, is our idolatry, is our insanity. 'Patriotism' is its cult. It should hardly be necessary to say, that by 'patriotism' I mean that attitude which puts the own nation above humanity, above the principles of truth and justice; not the loving interest in one's own nation, which is the concern with the nation's spiritual as much as with its material welfare — never with its power over other nations. Just as love for one individual which excludes the love for others is not love, love for one's country which is not part of one's love for humanity is not love, but idolatrous worship.
~Francos Diderot

We are not weak, if we make proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power... The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.
- Patrick Henry.

The strength of the Constitution lies entirely in the determination of each citizen to defend it. Only if every single citizen feels duty bound to do his share in this defense are the constitutional rights secure.
~ Albert Einstein [note: if all the quotes attributed to this guy are accurate, he was all over the map on just about every topic I've seen him opine on. Talk about a waffler!]

Let our object be our country, our whole country, and nothing but our country. And, by the blessing of God, may that country itself become a vast and splendid monument, not of oppression and terror, but of wisdom, of peace, and of liberty, upon which the world may gaze with admiration forever.
~ Daniel Webster


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Added a bunch of those, thanks!

Kennedy: Interesting as always.

Patton: I'm marking that one as (attributed) which is my informal code for "probably wrong but I still like it."

Einstein: If he said everything attributed to him, I'll eat my hat. I've been finding that he's more widely misquoted than Churchill.

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I'm always happy to see Dorothy Parker quoted. It seems she fades a bit more every year. She was a darned good writer of poetry and short stories (particularly "slice of life" stories, which she was among the very first to master), although they are often overshadowed by her wit and quotability.

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 Post subject: How about "suicide"
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"It is said an Eastern monarch once charged his wise men to invent him a sentence to be ever in view, and which should be true and appropriate in all times and situations. They presented him the words: 'And this, too, shall pass away.' How much it expresses! How chastening in the hour of pride! How consoling in the depths of affliction!"
-Abraham Lincoln
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http://www.emufarm.org/~cmbell/depress/
~ A Depression and Suicide Awareness WebPage~

At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.
~Abraham Lincoln's Address Before the Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois
January 27, 1838
http://speakernews.house.gov/library/te ... yceum1.asp
full text http://www.founding.com/library/index.cfm

I have a hundred times wished that one could resign life as an officer resigns a comission.
~Robert Burns-Letter,1788
There is no refuge from confession but suicide;and suicide is confession.
~Daniel Webster

The relatives of a suicide always take it in bad part that he did not remain alive out of consideration for the family dignity.
~Nietzsche-Human All-too-Human

The decision to remain alive or to die is probably a supreme example of self-determination.~Bruno Bettelheim

Many a man has decided to stay alive not because of the will to live but because of the stermination not to give assorted surviving bastards the satisfaction of his death.~Brendan Francis

To attempt suicide is a criminal offense. Any man who, of his own will, tries to escape the treadmill to which the rest of us feel chained incites our envy, and therefore our fury. We do not suffer him to go unpunished.~Alexander Chase.

The question is whether [suicide] is the way out, or the way in.~Ralph Waldo Emerson, Journals (1839).

The thought of suicide is a great source of comfort: with it a calm passage is to be made across many a bad night.~Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil.

Amid the sufferings of life on earth, suicide is God's best gift to man.~Pliny the Elder.

We cannot tear out a single page of our life, but we can throw the whole book in the fire.~George Sand.

"No, I am sure he has not taken his life. He is still alive, and somewhere wearily goes up and down the stairs of strange houses, stares somewhere at clean-scoured parquet floors and carefully tended araucarias, sits for days in libraries and nights in taverns, or lying on a hired sofa, listens to the world beneath his window and the hum of human life from which he knows that he is excluded. But he has not killed himself, for a glimmer of belief still tells him that he is to drink this frightful suffering in his heart to the dregs, and that it is of this suffering he must die."
~Herman Hesse, Steppenwolf
http://homepage.mac.com/kburkholder/Pag ... Hesse.html
http://hometown.aol.com/RickG15/Hesska.html

My husband and I didn't sign a pre-nuptial agreement. We signed a mutual suicide pact.
-- Rosanne Barr

Suicide is the most sincere form or self criticism
http://www.ahajokes.com/bus034.html

"I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad, but the dreams in which Im dying are the best I've ever had."
~Tears for Fears, Mad World.
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I just reviewed the quotes under the subject of boredom. Here's a few more:

Boredom: the desire for desires.
--Leo Tolstoy, Anna Karenina (1873-76)

Boredom is not an end product, is comparatively rather an early stage in life and art. You've got to go by or past or through boredom, as through a filter, before the clear product emerges.
--F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Crack-Up (1945)

Boredom is the fear of self.
--Comtesse Diane, Les Glanes de la Vie (1898)

When people are bored, it is primarily with their own selves that they are bored.
--Eric Hoffer

I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom.
--Angus Grossart

Boredom is like a pitiless zooming in on the epidermis of time. Every instant is dilated and magnified like the pores of the face.
--Jean Baudrillard

Perhaps the world's second worst crime is boredom. The first is being a bore.
--Sir Cecil Beaton

Is boredom anything less than the sense of one's faculties slowly dying?
--John Berger

Only the most acute and active animals are capable of boredom. -- A theme for a great poet would be God's boredom on the seventh day of creation.
--Friedrich Nietzsche

Living, just by itself --what a dirge that is! Life is a classroom and Boredom's the usher, there all the time to spy on you...
~Louis-Ferdinand Celine
The narrator (Ferdinand Bardamu), in Journey to the End of the Night (1932; tr. 1934; 1966 ed., p. 307).

Nature is unfair? So much the better, inequality is the only bearable thing, the monotony of equality can only lead us to boredom.
~Francis Picabia
"L'Humour Poetique," in La Nef, no. 71 --72 (Paris, Dec. 1950/Jan. 1951; repr. in Yes No: Poems and Sayings, "Sayings," ed. by Remy Hall, 1990).

One must choose in life between boredom and suffering.
~Anne Louise Germaine de Stael

God could cause us considerable embarrassment by revealing all the secrets of nature to us: we should not know what to do for sheer apathy and boredom.
~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
"Memoirs," by Riemer.

I fell asleep reading a dull book and dreamed I kept on reading, so I awoke from sheer boredom.
-- Heinrich Heine (1797 - 1856)

"The man who lets himself be bored is even more contemptible than the bore."
- Samuel Butler

"Are you bored with life? Then throw yourself into some work you believe in with all your heart, live for it, die for it, and you will find happiness that you had thought could never be yours." - Dale Carnegie

"Boredom lies only with the traveler's limited perception and his failure to explore deeply enough." - William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways

"Probably the difference between man and the monkeys is that the monkeys are merely bored, while man has boredom plus imagination."
- Lin Yutang

The age of chivalry is past. Bores have succeeded to dragons.
~ Benjamin Disraeli ~

People of Wealth and the so called upper class suffer the most from boredom.
~ Arthur Schopenhauer ~

I wanted to be bored to death, as good a way to go as any.~Peter DeVries.
No society ever seems to have succumbed to boredom. Man has developed an obvious capacity for surviving the pompous reiteration of the commonplace.
~John Kenneth Galbraith

Highly educated bores are by far the worst; they know so much, in such fiendish detail, to be boring about.
~Louis Kronenberger

Today’s kids learn from the time they are two that, if something bores you, you push the buttons on the remote control. Zap it. Fast forward it. Change the channel. Reset the game. Load new software.
~Jeff McCarthy


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hey just thought that you all would love to hear this cute quote i saw on this t shirt this woman had on in the mall well it said "i woman who is looking for a husband never had one" isn't that cute lol :lol:


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Heh it's really cute, maybe you can post it to 'quotations talk'.

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