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If you keep this going for ever it will eventually reach 1 number

if you will reach one number, it is finite. that is exactly the problem, you cannot ever reach one number.

and though it is an arguable point that going far enough you will eventualy reach a stable number, first, you can never be sure, and second, and more importantly, with all the computing power at the disposal of the world today, we can only reach several thousand digits. if you wanted to reach a google digit that did not fluxuate, you would have to calculate, probably, out to the googleplex digit.

your signature even offers a 64 bit encription algorithm. if you wrote it, or know anything about algorithms, you should know that they are designed so that to bute force it would take more time than the existance of the universe. To calculate pi, even to the google digit, let alone the googleplex digit, is a similar idea.

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your signature even offers a 64 bit encription algorithm. if you wrote it, or know anything about algorithms, you should know that they are designed so that to bute force it would take more time than the existance of the universe. To calculate pi, even to the google digit, let alone the googleplex digit, is a similar idea.


No prizes for anyone who remembers why I said google didgit in the first place. It was meant to take forever so there is no problem there.

The fact that it converges on 1 number does not imply that the number is finite as it happens this sequence converges on an irriational transcendental number. The fact that it takes forever to sort it out is irrelevant.

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No prizes for anyone who remembers why I said google didgit in the first place. It was meant to take forever so there is no problem there.

So it's unprovable. read the problem. false or unprobable.

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Heres a new riddle. Actually it's quite old. "Which animal has one voice, but two, three or four feet being slowest on three?"

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@ dimo14 when I said forever I din't mean "forever" just a sufficently long time as to be virtually intisguishable from forever.

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Very good sigsfried. I assume you have read Oedipus Rex (Oedipus The King)

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Actually no I havn't. It is however the most famous riddle so I had heard it even if it was in a slightly diffrent form. Then there is the comedy variant in Pyramids by Pratchett.

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Well that would explain it. Good show old fellow.

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To be fair I did actually get it the first time I heard it.

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when I said forever I din't mean "forever" just a sufficently long time as to be virtually intisguishable from forever

most, if not all scientists belive time either began at the big bang, or that the big bang is a point in a cycle, either way, time is generaly considered to have started at the big bang, and if the calculation would take longer than time itself, thats forever. besides, if you would die naturaly before they could solve it, isnt that unprovable as far as the question goes?

to address the new riddle, I belive the answer is man, similar to shakespeare's speach comparing times of a mans life to that of a single day.

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Just becuase time started dosn't mean it will ever stop.
Also 1 google digits isn't impossible to reach just very hard. Certainly given a big enough computer the google didgit could be calculated by now.

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wow, you certainly didnt make that 64 bit encryption you advertise, otherwise you would know how stupid that statement was. the purpous of making a 64, or 128, or any bit encryption is that to brute force it, (or hack it by guessing every possible number) would take more time than the earth has been around. something with a google digits is truly incomprehendably long, far, far longer than an encryption key, and you say you just need a bigger computer.

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psst... do you guys mean googol? Because that really big number? It's not google, it's googol. I got confused because whatever.

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sorry about that... did some extra research, and a google is a small googol evidently. However, (pi) to a googolplex, or at least googol, would be better than (pi) to a google digits. Anyway, sorry bout the accusation
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As far as I was aware the number was the same one was the American name the other the English name for 1.00*10^100 and a googleplex is 1*10^google. I may be wrong

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