Quotations and Literature Forum

It is currently Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:45 pm

All times are UTC - 7 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Is Stealing ever right?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:59 pm 
Offline
The Sceptic
The Sceptic

Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:07 pm
Posts: 1811
Location: Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Trying to cherry pick the bits of interesting stuff from the actual quotations area.

So: Is stealing ever right
Some views so far:
Quote:
But what happens if he stole a loaf of bread to feed his family? This is where a grey area comes into the equation for me.

Nemsis 21

Quote:
So now they starve instead of you?
Phix

_________________
"The Truth may be out there but the lies are in your head"
"I tend to think if God wanted us to believe in him he'd exist."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:48 pm 
Offline
Member
Member

Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:32 pm
Posts: 32
That is a very hard question to answer. My automatic response would be NO of course not, but there are some gray areas. I think that if you are in DIRE need for food and you don't have any money, then you should go to a soup kitchen. But if there are none around then what would you do? I know that if someone came up to my door looking for food I would try to help in any way I could, so why wouldn't they ask for help??? What do you think?

_________________
Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:42 am 
Offline
Member
Member

Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:55 am
Posts: 34
Location: Terra, United Kingdom
You may also consider that not sharing is just as bad, so that a person is forced to steal in order to survive.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:59 pm 
Offline
QuoteMaster
QuoteMaster

Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:33 am
Posts: 519
You people better wake up. There is no gray area with full awareness. A gray ps an illusion. Curse the person who came up with that term. If you see a gray area it only means that there needs to be more light for one to see clearly. One should never steal.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:02 pm 
Offline
QuoteMaster
QuoteMaster

Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:33 am
Posts: 519
No one is ever forced to steal. That is a cop out. One who uses his mind will find the answer but the apathetic don't try so they believe that their hand is forced when it isn't.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:53 am 
Offline
The Sceptic
The Sceptic

Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:07 pm
Posts: 1811
Location: Yorkshire, United Kingdom
That Phix is unfair some people (maybe not in the developed world) are unable to work for reasons outside their control. They can get no food unless they steal there only other option is death.

_________________
"The Truth may be out there but the lies are in your head"
"I tend to think if God wanted us to believe in him he'd exist."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:52 am 
Offline
QuoteMaster
QuoteMaster

Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:33 am
Posts: 519
Quote:
That Phix is unfair some people (maybe not in the developed world) are unable to work for reasons outside their control. They can get no food unless they steal there only other option is death.
Give me a specific example of when someone has to steal and I will show you why they don't.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:08 pm 
Offline
The Sceptic
The Sceptic

Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:07 pm
Posts: 1811
Location: Yorkshire, United Kingdom
I don't actually know anyone who is in this position however that does not mean such people to not exist. I have so far led an extremly sheltered life if we were to assume the only people around where the ones I have met you would have a very odd world view.

_________________
"The Truth may be out there but the lies are in your head"
"I tend to think if God wanted us to believe in him he'd exist."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:13 pm 
Offline
QuoteMaster
QuoteMaster

Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:33 am
Posts: 519
Quote:
I have so far led an extremly sheltered life if we were to assume the only people around where the ones I have met you would have a very odd world view.
I can tell. Get out!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:28 pm 
Offline
The Sceptic
The Sceptic

Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:07 pm
Posts: 1811
Location: Yorkshire, United Kingdom
I can't afford to vist the places I would need to. Flying to Africa isn't cheap. I do intend to do voluntary serivce in third world countries after my degree.
Thus while I have had a sheltered life there is little I could do about it.

_________________
"The Truth may be out there but the lies are in your head"
"I tend to think if God wanted us to believe in him he'd exist."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:34 pm 
Offline
QuoteMaster
QuoteMaster

Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:33 am
Posts: 519
Quote:
I can't afford to vist the places I would need to. Flying to Africa isn't cheap. I do intend to do voluntary serivce in third world countries after my degree.
Thus while I have had a sheltered life there is little I could do about it.Phix
Why is there little you could do about it?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:37 pm 
Offline
The Sceptic
The Sceptic

Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:07 pm
Posts: 1811
Location: Yorkshire, United Kingdom
I can't afford to do anything about it. (Openining sentance) also to add to that I don't really have the time as I do want to get to Uni.

_________________
"The Truth may be out there but the lies are in your head"
"I tend to think if God wanted us to believe in him he'd exist."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:53 pm 
Offline
QuoteMaster
QuoteMaster

Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:33 am
Posts: 519
Quote:
I can't afford to do anything about it. (Openining sentance) also to add to that I don't really have the time as I do want to get to Uni.
Well thats your choice but to say there is little you can do about it is immature in itself. You have complete control but you blame it on circumstance. Only women and children do this but not men.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:01 pm 
Offline
The Sceptic
The Sceptic

Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:07 pm
Posts: 1811
Location: Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Hang on it is not my choice about not having enough money. The Uni bit might not be entirly my choice. Also I am still at school so my parents still have a strong control over my life denying this is ridiculous.[/u]

_________________
"The Truth may be out there but the lies are in your head"
"I tend to think if God wanted us to believe in him he'd exist."


Last edited by sigsfried on Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:05 pm 
Offline
QuoteMaster
QuoteMaster

Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:33 am
Posts: 519
Quote:
Hang on it is not my choice about not having enough money. The Uni bit might not be my choice. Also I am still at school so my parents still have a strong control over my life denying this is ridiculous.
True indeed! you're missing my point. These are the things of late childhood. As you become a man this will no longer be the case and so shall it be with many things you think.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 7 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group