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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:44 am 
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O.K. How can it influence us?

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I already told you this. Basic nature.


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We are not going to agree on this. With religion you have a chance but this seems too irrational.

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Go and test it first. I am not asking you to agree but to consider it. Then make your determination.


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Why should I need to test it I am not making a knowledge claim it is up to you to prove it not to me to disprove it.

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What is your purpose?


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Let's put it another way. If after I disprove you somone else says not it is not the zodiac it is the position of Jupiter when you were born that matters. I have to then prove them wrong. Then somone says no it is something else etc. etc. This is not the way we work.
I will be sceptical of anything that does not have empirical evideince for it especially if the knowledge claim seems illogical.

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This is true but everyone draws the line of what they are willing to accept as proof. As we can never be sure the universe exists what chance do we have of proving anything else.
This is the same position.

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Empirical = originating in or based on observation or experience
I have diven you this, you reject it. What more can I do? This is why I ask,what is your purpose? You claim everything as metaphysical that exists outside of your realm of understanding. That is clearly arrogance and vanity destroying good judgment.

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Then somone says no it is something else etc. etc. This is not the way we work.
Who is we?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:21 am 
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What is your purpose?


To make people think carefully before they make illogical assumptions

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Who is we


The general mind set of the western world since the dawn of the age of reason.

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You are far too arrogant Sigsfried.


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I remeber saying just the same about you.

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I remeber saying just the same about you.
So how far can we get being that way?


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I'm not trying to be arrogant. It is just that when somone says something I want evidence befire I will accept it.

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I gave you the evidence! I am not present with you so I cannot give you physical evidence. For this reason I told you to test it on your own. If I could be present I would show you myself. We can't use normal procedure being so restricted by these post and this forum.


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I accept that you gave me evidence unfortunatly I doubt the validity of the evideince. Out of interest how many people did you catergorize.

Also there are 2 types of evidience it counts for very little unless you can make predictions based on your evidience.

Here is my predection:
You will be unable to guess somebodies zodiac symbol correctly first time.
Try guessing my or Halliberries symbol

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