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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:06 am 
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Why do some people commit suicide?

What makes them reach to this so fragile climax in their lives ... making 'em so weak to accept living any more ... why do they end their lives by their own hands?


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Some people just get really tired. They find hopelessness in certain situations, they get too serious about life, so absorbed to find answers to life's intricate ways. Some would end their lives because of the burden of guilt, feeling that there is no better way to be understood but by death, because in it, there is no longer condemnation but understanding, forgiveness and acceptance. Some would kill other innocent people before killing themselves, because envy blinds and kills.

Perhaps , committing suicide is a matter of accepting things the way we are rather than accepting things the way they are.

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Libra,i can't answer your question because i don't know everything about the matter, but here's a real story from Turkey, an astonishing one:

Ümit Yaşar Oğuzcan, one of the well-known and leading poets of Turkey, used to write many poems concerning death. Death was his obsession, most of his poetry were answering the questions of "How to die best" ," how a man commit a suicide", "best ways of death", etc. And one day, his son, known for his cheerfulness and filled with joy of life, jumped to death from Galata tower,(one of great towers of Istanbul, was built by Geneose colonialists) and left a note behind him:"Dad, so dies a man".

Ümit Yaşar Oğuzcan quit writing poems about death.

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this is the tower he jumped from.

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That is so sad.

It seems hard to imagine such extreme despair and hopelessness that drives someone to suicide. Perhaps nowadays long term drug use makes those feelings stronger and more easily given in to and so maybe it happens more often now.

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It seems that the irony of things happens when we are so idealistic and passionate about certain ideas/things. I know not the explanation for this but I've seen and heard similar stories like this. It's as if the challenge comes so naturally and won't stop until it breaks our stance apart. Words have tremendous power that they come back to ridicule, haunt, and judge us.

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Suicide occurs when the pain of a particular situation exceeds the resources for coping with the pain. People develop tunnel vision surrounding their problem and see suicide as the only way out. Suicide is not a simple phenomenon. It can be impulsive. It can have physiological factors. It usually always contains elements of despair, hopelessness and depression. Most suicidal people are ambivalent about exiting, they want to live but can see no other way out of their situation. Most suicides are committed by white males. For adolescents, suicide is the third leading cause of death after accidents and homicide.


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Kyneton is Western Victoria has a teenage suicide rate beyond anything anywhere else in the country, somewhare in the order of 25%.

Having been involved in a bit of sociological research on the problem, one of the, albeit tenuous, conclusions was that teens don't fully appreciate the permanence of it. There were a number of statements along the lines of, 'I'd like to see what they think now', in notes left.

I think it's a last act of desperation for some, the ultimate cowardice for others and attention seeking behaviour in it's extreme for more.

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I agree with what was said so far but would like to add so here it goes

I believe that a big part is how they view life and death likewise. Sorry for this in advance but it fits so well...

" To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action"- Hamlet

Or maybe like a man with a very similar name to mine who just happened to kill himself might believe that Death is something to be greeted for the body and its perception contaminate the soul and its essence of perfection.
(gathered from the "Five Great Dialogues" of Plato)

So from this it can be said that the person's apprehension of death greatly affects the way someone lives and so if they choose to die.


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TO FAREWELL OR TO FARE WELL IS LIFE'S HUGE ISSUE.

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