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What is nature? That is, define it.
And then describe it.

Do you believe it is in the nature of humans to be good? Is a baby not the essence of purity? Do we not celebrate life and mourn death and have hospitals and charities? Do we not love? Do we not want basic human goods - health and happiness and prosperity, and the like? The majority of the populace is "good", right? That is, there are less people in jail than there are outside of jail. Then does this mean that those who are in jail were being "unnatural"?

Just throwing stuff out there.

As long as we're using these terms in our talks about situational ethics (which I have yet to respond to) and abortion, we may as well be on the same page? Anyone else?

Well, you have fake nature and true nature.
To me, true nature is a word given by the evolutionists to the process of constant change. Nature however, is not always time related. Therefore nature is also a state of things. So to sum up the already brief, it's existance and change at the same time.
The fake idea of nature comes from people who think that nature was everything until humans started playing god. Why? You can't just say something without proving it, without proof, an idea will never be more than that. It's like when an evolutionist proves evolution exists, then a priest thinks he's a smartass when he says "well, God exists to me as long as you can't prove the opposite". Science doesn't work that way friends. When you say something, you need to back it up. Something isn't true until someone proves you wrong, but something becomes true when you prove it.
So what I'm trying to say that in my opinion you can't say humans act against nature when you can't prove they aren't part of it. I dare you to define nature and then explain why mankind and what it does isn't part of it anymore.
Well, I guess you can see that I've had this conversation before, and what some other people were thinking

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I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be.

and here I thought we were going to talk about tree hugging and fluffy animals.... nature....pfft

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-Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort. -
Franklin D. Roosevelt

I believe that we are born pure just to be exposed to many pollutants around .. some stick to their pure nature and resume fighting strongly till the end while others get badly affected and leave their bad touches wherever they go.

Its what makes difference between the good and bad natures from the very first beginning where life finds a way.


Libra.

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Being a lady is an attitude.

Ya... same here. I was looking forward to pictures of pools and trees and mountains and clouds and cute panda bears and stuff ... pffft...

I'm too old to get into the same discussions about nature vs nurture etc etc etc that I've engaged in in the past...

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Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.
~Bertrand Russell

Anajo..

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Life is a lesson. Learn from it.

Hi Arrow. Glad to give a smile.

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Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.
~Bertrand Russell

I think Nature is the way things are. It is in humans' nature to invent things. So 'things' become natural. Birds build nests with sticks; humans build houses with brick and mortar. At what point does things become "unnatural", if it is all derived from the earth anyways? Pondering.........

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Have Fun, Good Luck.

You've changes a bit since the last photo.

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The last photo? (insert confused smiley here)

Oh wait... nevermind..

Sometimes I forget what a smartass that you are DSW!

Personally I like the changes, it's definitely....different.

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Sanctuary: a small safe place in a troubling world

nature is the cover which protects us from dying

One of Ozzie's finest.

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