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Edge
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:15 pm |
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i love this poem and i don't know why.
a poem by WB Yeats
He Wishes For The Cloths Of Heaven
Had I the heavens' embroidered cloth
Enwrought with golden and silver light
The blue and the dim and the dark cloth
Of night and light and the half light
I would spread that cloth under your feet
But I being poor have only my dreams
I've spread my dreams under your feet
Tread softly for you tread on my dreams
_________________ the devils greatest trick was convincing the world he didn't exist
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tom5030
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:18 pm |
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I think I just had an epiphany. I like a lot a lot a lot a lot.
That, Edgey, will be a new principle of mine.
Thanks.
_________________ In the world of knowledge the idea of Good appears last of all and is seen only with an effort. When seen it is to be the Universal Author of things Beautiful and Right, parent and Lord of Light, and the source of Reason and Truth in the Intellectual.
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cdsg23
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:54 pm |
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Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2002 4:51 pm Posts: 3071 Location: University of New Hampshire
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I think i can see why you love that, but i can't put into words why. it's power seems to defy humanity's attempt to describe things in words
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Eliea
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:05 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:23 pm Posts: 395 Location: Michigan
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I really like it too, but I don't think I want to try to guess at its meaning.
_________________ Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform. -Mark Twain
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Kosra87
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:29 pm |
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I have an idea as to the meaning of this poem, but it by all means is probably not even close.
I think that the person loves this other person so much, that they wish they could give them the heavens. Being unable to do this for them it is but their dreams that they lay at the feet of their love. Their dreams are the only things that they have to offer and would give them in the name of love.
_________________ Look me in the eyes
Tell me no more lies
Tell me why this must be
Torture to me
~Kosra~
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cdsg23
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:39 pm |
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i think this poem loses something when you try to give it meaning, maybe we shoud just accept that it's beautiful and speaks to us in ways we don't want to describe.
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Kosra87
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:44 pm |
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But what was the point of it being shared if we don't speak of what it means to us and the feelings we recieved because of its beauty then? It was shared so we could express our sentiments towards it.
_________________ Look me in the eyes
Tell me no more lies
Tell me why this must be
Torture to me
~Kosra~
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:05 am |
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its very powerful and meaningful. got me into a very pensive mood after reading and re-reading the words very slowly. to me, it holds an infinite delicacy of dreams and hopes and fear of them being crushed under by the one love.
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cdsg23
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:56 am |
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then we dicuss how it made us feel and the reasons we think it did that. sometimes poems don't have a meaning and are written simply for the beauty of the words.
_________________ Sanctuary: a small safe place in a troubling world
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Kosra87
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:34 am |
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cdsg23 wrote: then we dicuss how it made us feel and the reasons we think it did that. sometimes poems don't have a meaning and are written simply for the beauty of the words.
The reason that it makes us feel the way it does, is the meaning we gather from it. How can you know what you felt and why you felt it without giving it meaning in your mind? True, there may have been no meaning when the writer wrote it, but that does not mean that we can't give meaning to it in our own ways? Do you really think that every poem and play and story ever written that has been given a meaning, is the true meaning of the story? We will always pull something away from literature that someone else may not, but if we share that, then maybe we will help someone else see things in a different way.
_________________ Look me in the eyes
Tell me no more lies
Tell me why this must be
Torture to me
~Kosra~
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cdsg23
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:11 pm |
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the meaning isn't necessarily what makes us feel the way it does. sometimes, when words are combined in certain ways, they cause us to feel things that are in no way connected with the meaning of the poem. a certain number of syllables read in a rhythm, even nonsense syllables, can evoke a feeling or memory.
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tom5030
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:59 pm |
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Quote: Had I the heavens' embroidered cloth Enwrought with golden and silver light The blue and the dim and the dark cloth Of night and light and the half light I would spread that cloth under your feet But I being poor have only my dreams I've spread my dreams under your feet Tread softly for you tread on my dreams
I think it expresses the good intentions that the subject has. I think he is saying, "If I had the happiness that life has to offer, I would give it to you. But I don't. I am what I am, and that is the only thing I can give to you. Don't bring me down because of that. Tread softly."
_________________ In the world of knowledge the idea of Good appears last of all and is seen only with an effort. When seen it is to be the Universal Author of things Beautiful and Right, parent and Lord of Light, and the source of Reason and Truth in the Intellectual.
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cdsg23
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:33 am |
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Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2002 4:51 pm Posts: 3071 Location: University of New Hampshire
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well, any way, i think it's saying that the speaker feels so much love for this person, that if they had the power, they would make the heavens bow down before them. the speaker likens the spoken about to the status of a god, saying the heavens will be beneath you, for you are everything.
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