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A point that the Professor alluded to in your debate regarding love that I think would have helped if it was fully explained/explored is that there is a philosophical argument that there is no such thing as altruism, that everything done is done for the benefit of one's self.

Example:
Person A loves person B and performs a "self sacrificing" act for person B
(this is not a novel, I don't have to provide a storyline)
Most would agree that person A did this because s/he loves person B
This philisophical platform would insist that A's actions were performed because they made A feel good and that was their reward.

This argument applies to interpersonal love as well as brotherly love (the money/food to kids in Africa example)

And before everyone rails at me, I'm not validating nor denegrating this philisophical argument, merely trying to facilitate the discussion.

And Professor, if none of this coincides with what you were trying to convey, then you're on your own here.


thats exactly what im trying to say

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Holy Crap... I had NOOOO idea this discussion had started from my "Poem". Thanks for the positive feedback people.

As for love. I believe in its positive ways. Love can easily be broken down into chemical compounds and brain waves and such. As easily as someone believes in hate, I believe in Love and it's powers.

Without structure, there would be no DNA.

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If any one has read it, Carolyn Forché poem 'The Colonel' has similar structure to this poem, and has had quite a bit of attention. Poems can have different structures just like different ways of rhyming.

The poem was quite good though. Quite personal and emotional.

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Professor,
I know everyone has flaws. I hold nothing of your beliefs against you. I have my own faults that could seem absurd to people in here also.

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I think we all have those kinds of flaws. Welcome to the human race, eh?

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Hey Professor, How would the world benefit from your logic?

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Its making us think.

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It does make us think. For me, Prof. gave me a different perspective. I didn't agree with it, really, but I still got to see what another person's views.

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It's the balance. Most people here are governed majorly by their emotions, and a little logic. The prof is governed by logic and a little emotion. He is our balance. Strange how the forum seemed so chaotic when this balance was first introduced, but now we are all very peaceful and all is as it should be once again.
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Nope I don't agree there, I think you can't put emotions vs logic in your balance, because I believe emotions are caused by some form of logic, the logic of conditioning and experiences, I quote myself

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I was reading some science magazine and they found out recently that all of the decision making is directly linked to emotions in the brain. So what we deem as "logic" is really our emotions sorting themselves out. But, then again, Logic is also also be the antonym for irrationality. Irrationality is emotions out of check. Or something like that.

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Wierd! Its convincing. When you put it that way it makes sense. I don't know. I guess I always put emotions to the soul, and reasoning and logic to the brain. I never really wanted to combine the two.

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Combine everything.. that is logic
Logic is a philosophy by itself

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Tushkahill wrote:
Hey Professor, How would the world benefit from your logic?

I'm not concerned about the rest of the world. I benefit from my logic and thats enough.
By the way after giving thought to my user name I had to laugh. Its taken as meaning proffesor of logic when of course that is illogical.
when someone calls themselves professor they use thier last name not the name of the subject they teach.Thusly making Professor Logic mean that my name was ______ Logic not that I used logic. Of course it despite its stupidity i take it to mean the same as everyone else foes but I just thought i'd ramble a bit.

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Unnil wrote:
Combine everything.. that is logic
Logic is a philosophy by itself

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in my opinion logic is being able to think outsife the box while your feet are planted firmly on the ground.

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