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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:36 pm 
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the phrase: "beam me up, scottie/scotty"?

"monkey see, monkey do"? (repetitive, unthinking action?)

i might've to add some more. can't remember em now.

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Well Beam me up Scotty comes from Star Trek and refers to the way they would transport themselves from other planets and back to the ship and such. They had this like teleportion device.

Monkey see monkey do I belive refers to the way monkeies will immitate others, though it is not suppose to be so much litteral, but just saying if you just immitate what you see, or do something just becasue someone else does it, you are making a monkey of youerself.

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also, IMHO. is that an abbreviation? or no?

no idea.

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IMHO typicaly means In My Humble Opinion

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Thanks Romeo!

now, AWOL? it means away, i know. but how? ie., what is the etymology?

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I believe that AWOL is Absent Without Official Leave, but I could be wrong. I've also heard that it's just Absent WithOut Leave, but I think absent without official leave makes more sense, because the out in without is not a separate word and does not deserve its own letter.

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Eliea wrote:
Absent WithOut Leave


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:16 pm 
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person wrote:
the phrase: "beam me up, scottie/scotty"?
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By the way, this is a misquote, and this line was never uttered on Star Trek.

"he multi-part sci-fi Star Trek TV and film series (first telecast as a one-hour TV show in 1966 and lasting until 1969 before syndication, and inspiring numerous feature films, beginning with Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979)), popularized the common phrase, "Beam me up, Scotty." Contrary to popular belief, Captain Kirk (William Shatner) never uttered the line: “Beam me up, Scotty”. The actual command, "Kirk to Enterprise. Beam us up, Scotty" was voiced by Captain Kirk (voice of William Shatner) in Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek animated TV series from 1973-75. The closest Kirk ever got to saying the exact line was "Scotty, beam me up!" in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (1986)."

http://www.filmsite.org/moments02.html

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also,
ruby in the dust

cats in the cradle

just desserts

I know what most of these mean, I would like to know their etymology.
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person wrote:

cats in the cradle

I know what most of these mean, I would like to know their etymology.
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The "cat's cradle" I am not sure of its etymology (I will see what I can find). The only reference, though, to "The Cat's in the Cradle' is from the following lyrics.

Cat's in the Cradle
by Sandy & Harry Chapin

My child arrived just the other day,
He came to the world in the usual way.
But there were planes to catch, and bills to pay.
He learned to walk while I was away.
And he was talking 'fore I knew it, and as he grew,
He'd say, "I'm gonna be like you, dad.
You know I'm gonna be like you."

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon,
Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
"When you coming home, dad?" "I don't know when,
But we'll get together then.
You know we'll have a good time then."

My son turned ten just the other day.
He said, "Thanks for the ball, dad, come on let's play.
Can you teach me to throw?" I said, "Not today,
I got a lot to do." He said, "That's ok."
And he walked away, but his smile never dimmmed,
Said, "I'm gonna be like him, yeah.
You know I'm gonna be like him."

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon,
Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
"When you coming home, dad?" "I don't know when,
But we'll get together then.
You know we'll have a good time then."

Well, he came from college just the other day,
So much like a man I just had to say,
"Son, I'm proud of you. Can you sit for a while?"
He shook his head, and he said with a smile,
"What I'd really like, dad, is to borrow the car keys.
See you later. Can I have them please?"

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon,
Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
"When you coming home, son?" "I don't know when,
But we'll get together then, dad.
You know we'll have a good time then."

I've long since retired and my son's moved away.
I called him up just the other day.
I said, "I'd like to see you if you don't mind."
He said, "I'd love to, dad, if I could find the time.
You see, my new job's a hassle, and the kid's got the flu,
But it's sure nice talking to you, dad.
It's been sure nice talking to you."
And as I hung up the phone, it occurred to me,
He'd grown up just like me.
My boy was just like me.

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon,
Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
"When you coming home, son?" "I don't know when,
But we'll get together then, dad.
You know we'll have a good time then."

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:34 pm 
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person wrote:
also,
ruby in the dust

cats in the cradle

just desserts

I know what most of these mean, I would like to know their etymology.
Thanks.


I've never heard anyone say ruby in the dust or just desserts....What do they mean? come to think of it, what does cats in the cradle mean? I've only ever heard it in the song...

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:06 pm 
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Jenny,
I heard the expression in the song too; albeit the Ugly Kid Joe version, anyway, I thought it ought to have a meaning, as right after that,
there's man in the moon, and silver spoon and stuff, which are idiomatic expressions.
Even ruby in the dust is used in the song Gin Soaked Boy by Divine comedy.

Just Desserts means something that is due to a person, as in:
The intelligent audience did not get their just desserts in the seminar that went sore.

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Just deserts I have thought of as being close to the same as poetic justice, like when something bad happens to a person who has done bad things, that would be thier just desserts.

When a person gets what is comming to them more or less.

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ok, this one's got me thinking a while:

raining on some other sucker's parade

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i don't know of any origin but this one's used when you ruined someone's good time. let's say someone's in a really good mood. he's looking good, feeling good, having a good day, and you say, "hey bill, what's with that big zit on your forehead?" he might reply "ah, why do you always rain on my parade?" parades are fun. when they get rained on, it sucks.

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