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Douglas Adams ~ Sooo absurd
R.E. Feist ~ philosophy fiction, could be my favourite
Paoline ~ two books to be called Tolkien Junior, to be followed..
Bernard Werber ~ could (also) be my favourite, and first french author I liked..
Rowling ~ but only translated to dutch.. don't like it in english, hate it in french

dislikes: V.Hugo, A.Dumas, Maupassant,... (they sure have nuclear weapons in France)

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i have to say unnil, i really like all of your dislikes :P well, i spose i'm pretty ambivalent to maupassant, but the other two... love em

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Never read them translated to english.. :P

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Kujo wrote:
i have to say unnil, i really like all of your dislikes :P well, i spose i'm pretty ambivalent to maupassant, but the other two... love em

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Same here. I have read Hugo (Les Misérables, Notre-Dame de Paris, and Quatrevingt-treize) in French and I still pick them up once in awhile reread certain passages. I have also read Les 3 Mousquetaires in French. I enjoyed all three a lot. Like, Kujo, I don't think about Maupassant all that much. I believe that I read something that he wrote one time, but I don't remember much about it.

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yeah, all i know is that he wrote the short story, "the necklace," and it's ok. and i wish i was fluent enough in other languages so i could read novels in their original languages. but alas, only fluent in english.

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I guess tastes differ..
I hate most of the earlier french authors.
7 years I've studied in French so I guess I am well placed to say that these authors are rather poets than writers, only there style is remarkable.. But there just is not the attraction authors like Bernard Werber procur.
But that's just my opinion..

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Poets? Yes, Hugo wrote a lot of poetry, but I am not sure that I understand this. For example, what is poetic about Quatrevingt-treize? I have been studying French for the past 30 years (yes, I am that old! :lol:). You are right, though, tastes differ. By what standards do we differentiate between good taste and bad taste? :wink:
The only thing about Hugo that amused me was his antagonism towards Voltaire, whose philosophy I enjoy.

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Maybe poetry has not the same significance in english.. I speak about "poésie".
Je m'explique en francais, car il m'est difficile de commenter un autheur francais en anglais... La poésie est l'art réthorique, donner un rythme et un style attrayant à un texte. Et j'en conclus donc que ceci est le seul talent véritable que je vois dans la littérature de Victor. En effet, je n'apprécie guere le cadre noir de ses histoires, son réalisme intraité. Toutes ses pensées sont fondées sur des observations et je suis fasciné par l'abstrait, l'inconnu, et voila qui devrait démontrer mon dégout envers la plupart des auteurs francais..
Those who understand french will normally understand what I just said, those who don't well they just can't give their opinion about french authors, simply because they never read there "littérature" in french.
There is no good nor bad taste, they just differ ;)

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Unnil,
Pardonne-moi que ça fait aussi longtemps que je ne t'avais pas répondu, et ta patience avec mes faiblesses vers le Français car je ne le parle pas aussi bien que toi.

Je ne savais vraiment comment répondre à tes pensés vers Hugo. Tu crois que la poésie est son seule talent. Ben, mais comme tu crois que Rowlings est un auteur formidable, sans doubte que nous ont les goutes differents tout le deux. Je ne pouvais pas lire ces livres.. une page, et je savais tout de suite que c'est la littérature pour les lecteurs d'un âge plus jeune que moi, alors, ce n'est pas vraiment mon genre. Cela dit, c'est vrai que je connais même des vielles femmes qui m'ont recommender à lire les livres de Rowlings. En plus, je suis athé, alors des histoires de magique ne m'intéresse pas. Alors, pour les raisons que tu n'aime pas V. Hugo, c'est pour les raisons même, que ses ecritures me plaît. Ce que me plaît le plus, c'est la description de l'église, Notre Dame de Paris,,, l'architecture est comme une dialogue qui transvers les âges, un sort de language avant que les gens peuvent lire. Je crois bien qu'on est lu les elements differents. Toi, tu as vu le noir. Moi, j'ai vu la vie. Je n'aime pas trop l'art abstrait non plus car il me semble que même les enfants and n'importe qui peut dessiner n'importe quoi, et voilá, c'est l'art! Comme ça! Sans travailler, sans comprendre se que c'est l'art.. la balance des couleurs... avec la litterature, la balance du rythme, la beauté des mots, etc...
Well, I hope that you understood my French and that it was not so horrible to have confused you! :roll:

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Ah! text heavy conversation! I'm afraid i'm british, so my fave authors is a bit biased.

1) Douglas Adams- Wow, i genius on several levels

2) Terry Pratchett- i love his fantasy/humour/satire style, and his style of writing as well.

3) R. E. Feist- Brilliant plots, and well written

4)William Fortschein- same as above.

I read Honoured enemy recently, by R. E. Feist and Fortschein. it's brilliant. it's quite a cliched story in the whole 'fighting alongside your enemy against a greater evil' but they writ eit so well, it doesn't feel stale in any way.

I have to say, although i love Rowling's plot, it is written so badly, in english any way. i think it may be because it started off aimed at a younger generation, so the style was kept simple. there's a running theme in her books:

'Tonight,' Harry said darkly, 'I'm going back'
'What?' Ron said in surprise, 'You can't!'

And so forth (They're not quotes, but examples by the way.)

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your french is not that bad :wink: great grammar

I understand your point of view upon V.Hugo and I agree, it's just a question of taste.

Therefore I must take my own defense I you say:

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tu crois que Rowlings est un auteur formidable


I don't exactly think that, it's like TropicalPeanut (btw nice name..) says, the way Rowling writes is **** (and you haven't read it in french!! terrible)
I mean I like the story, it's not as common as it seems (with all that sorcellery). And read it in dutch, there are 2 translations : Junior and Senior. The senior is a real pleasure, greatly written (in dutch I remind)!

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littérature pour les lecteurs d'un âge plus jeune que moi


Sure I am :wink: but I speak of that famous translation to dutch, not the english (quite childish) version.
And if you were speaking generally: Feist is not really for young people :roll: Adams neither

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je suis athé, alors des histoires de magique ne m'intéresse pas


I am atheist. Maybe you should try some Feist :wink:
=> I like it not because of magic but because of the way they talk about life and wisdom aso.

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Je n'aime pas trop l'art abstrait


I do, but only abstract litterature ;) (and I can see the difference between badly written litterature and overwelmingly well written litterature, it's not like painting lol)

And I hope I'm not too confusing with my english, I know I'm making loads of mistakes :roll:

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Cheers unnil, i have met soooo many people that think rowling can write, which is complete balls!

i'm gonna make an assumption that you're french? or am i wrong?

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Hi nope, mjust studying in the Belgian French community (Belgium is parted up in 3 "communities"), actually I'm from Flandres (the Dutch part), I live in Luxembourg and in my veins streams Sweedish blood ;)

Glad to meet someone who shares my meaning :o

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Cheers unnil, i have met soooo many people that think rowling can write, which is complete balls!


not gonna lie, i'm pretty much in love with rowling.

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In order of discovery, starting from my teen-years my preferred are:
Sven Hassel
Omero
Vittorio G. Rossi
James Herriot
Gerald Durrel
Enzo Biagi
John R.R. Tolkien
Jane Austen
Mary Stewart
Andrea Camilleri
But, surely, I forgot someone :roll:

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