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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:04 am 
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OTHER THAN IN DUNE 2000 was there anyone else who "Do not fear, fear is the mind killer,let the fear pass through you, and when the fear is gone, there will be noting left but strength." all help will be appreciated. thanks :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 2:20 pm 
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Ok, I'm cool I no longer need the answer. Thanks anyway

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Thou, who canst guide the wandering star
Who calm’st the elemental war
Whose mantle is yon boundless sky
My thoughts, my words, my crimes forgive
And since I soon must cease to live
Instruct me how to die.~Lord Byron
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Happens to be one of my faves. I've never seen anything to suggest that Herbert borrowed from anything in developing that mantra.

"Fear is the mind-killer"
http://www.shamanscave.com/Fear.html

Here's something interesting. Could have provided some inspiration.
"Where the mind is without fear"
The poet Rabindranath Tagore was Asia's first Nobel laureate. He received the prize in literature in 1913 for his collection of poems in Geetanjali.
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/libertyinstitute/motto.html
http://userpages.umbc.edu/~achatt1/poem/gitan.html


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I remember a quote similar to this in the original Dune...is it the same one?

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Yes, it is one and same (though the originating post on this thread butchers it rather a bit) and it goes:

"I must not fear. Fear is the mindkiller. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will allow it to pass over and through me, and when it is gone I will turn the inner eye to see it's path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
(Frank Herbert, Dune)
http://www.brewbooks.com/ref/qt/ref_quote.html


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From William Faulkner's Nobel prize acceptance speech:

"Our tragedy today is a general and universal physical fear so long sustained by now that we can even bear it. There are no longer problems of the spirit. There is only the question: When will I be blown up? Because of this, the young man or woman writing today has forgotten the problems of the human heart in conflict with itself which alone can make good writing because only that is worth writing about, worth the agony and the sweat.

He must learn them again. He must teach himself that the basest of all things is to be afraid; and, teaching himself that, forget it forever, leaving no room in his workshop for anything but the old verities and truths of the heart, the old universal truths lacking which any story is ephemeral and doomed - love and honor and pity and pride and compassion and sacrifice. Until he does so, he labors under a curse. He writes not of love but of lust, of defeats in which nobody loses anything of value, of victories without hope and, worst of all, without pity or compassion. His griefs grieve on no universal bones, leaving no scars. He writes not of the heart but of the glands."


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