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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:26 am 
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Just saw a Sir Francis Bacon quote about "fear" is credited to Roosevelt.
The quote in question is "Nothing is to be feared but fear" and is credited to Roosevelt here: http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/30140.html
"...the only thing we have to fear is fear itself..."

Of course nothing is said about the real quote and Sir Francis Bacon. The only credit on "fear" for Sir Francis Bacon is "He of whom many are afraid ought to fear many" which is quite different quote.
I guess crediting Mr Roosevelt with others quotes will not make him greater.


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:44 am 
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Check this other site out for some interesting information.
http://forum.quoteland.com/1/OpenTopic? ... 5761928622


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Phaedrus wrote:
Check this other site out for some interesting information.
http://forum.quoteland.com/1/OpenTopic? ... 5761928622


Thanks. It appears Sir Fransis Bacon wasn't the first who told the quote. But this don't make the fake crediting to Roosevelt better. And this is not the first time when the amricans credit this to Roosevelt. The famous "Fear Factor" show starts with the same quote and it is credited to Roosevelt too.

Eidt: "The thing I fear most is fear" - Michel Eyquem de Montaigne (1533-1592), in Essays (bk. I, ch. 18)
This seems the oldest quote. Although it has different meaning then the Sir Francis Bacon quote. All the others autors are later then Bacon.


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Even though it originated with Bacon, it becomes famous by someone who uses it in the present day. This happens frequently.

As far as Montaigne goes, many quotes originate with far different wording and go through a metamophoses through time when the wording changes.


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There's a big difference between the origin of an idea and the origin of a quotation.

Our policy is to have as many accurate quotations as possible - that means I'll gladly add the Bacon and Montaigne quotes, and I'll keep the Roosevelt one if it's accurate. But I'm not going to get into arguments about who expressed an idea first - we'd end up attributing half our quotations to Socrates...

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Handel: "autor"? "greater then"? Editing is not all that hard; use the Preview or "Edit" buttons. :?

I have a sense that when quoting or attributing, people are often evoking the person and the circumstances as much as the simple meaning itself. E.g. - I have just read through the GB Shaw quotes here, and many of them have bite and impact only if you know something about him and his biography. One such is, "Americans adore me and will go on adoring me until I say something nice about them." :lol: :)

So - what it comes to is that the person and situation where the qiq (quote in question) made the most or most recent impact is the one that gets remembered. And cited.


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hi,
I like the discussion right here on a topic inside this forum.It stated here that:a. A feeling of agitation and anxiety caused by the presence or imminence of danger.
b. A state or condition marked by this feeling: living in fear.
2. A feeling of disquiet or apprehension: a fear of looking foolish.
3. Extreme reverence or awe, as toward a supreme power.
4. A reason for dread or apprehension: Being alone is my greatest fear.
v. feared, fearĀ·ing, fears
v.tr.
1. To be afraid or frightened of.
2. To be uneasy or apprehensive about: feared the test results.
3. To be in awe of; revere.
4. To consider probable; expect: I fear you are wrong. I fear I have bad news for you.
5. Archaic To feel fear within (oneself).
v.intr.
1. To be afraid.
2. To be uneasy or apprehensive.

Fear is somewhat an emotional feeling and its mentally present when seldom experiencing bad spirit or temptation...Quote "Fear is an emotional response to a perceived threat. It is a basic survival mechanism occurring in response to a specific stimulus, such as pain or the threat of danger. Some psychologists such as John B. Watson, Robert Plutchik, and Paul Ekman have suggested that fear is one of a small set of basic or innate emotions. This set also includes such emotions as joy, sadness, and anger."


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I should say this is a really impresiive list you posted above. This phrase 'Fear is an emotional response to a perceived threat' suits perfetly the meaning of the word fear.


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Attributing a quote to an individual, such as Roosevelt said ..., is much different than saying Roosevelt was the first person to ever have the idea. :D


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Fear is that from which man fear most .
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